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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/06/15/choices/comment-page-1/#comment-3237</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What everyone here who is advocating the couple&#039;s choice to abort their baby needs to do is change the scenario.  What if the scenario was that this couple found out their 1 year old had a terrible disease of some sort?  Would your position remain the same?  Would you support their decision to terminate the life of their 1 year old?  If not, you need to figure out what is so different between a baby in the womb and a 1 year old, such that it is good to support the choice of killing one but not the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What everyone here who is advocating the couple&#8217;s choice to abort their baby needs to do is change the scenario.  What if the scenario was that this couple found out their 1 year old had a terrible disease of some sort?  Would your position remain the same?  Would you support their decision to terminate the life of their 1 year old?  If not, you need to figure out what is so different between a baby in the womb and a 1 year old, such that it is good to support the choice of killing one but not the other.</p>
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		<title>By: benjamin ady</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/06/15/choices/comment-page-1/#comment-2746</link>
		<dc:creator>benjamin ady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howie,

  To me the really interesting thing in the Bible passage to which you allude is the way in which both groups--both the sheep and the goats--are genuinely surprised when Jesus tells them &quot;you did this, that, and t&#039;other&quot; or &quot;you didn&#039;t do this, that, or t&#039;other&quot;. Do you believe there will be a 3rd group there, not mentioned by Jesus, who won&#039;t be at all surprised--who will be saying something like &quot;Well I already *knew* that when I was doing these things, I was doing it for you, Jesus, and I already knew those evil people over there were not doing these things for you Jesus. In fact, *that* couple right there--they murdered you in the womb, Jesus--I saw the video on RYF.&quot;?

It&#039;s also interesting to me that you extrapolate quite so far from the text. In the list of actions of the goats, for which they will be cast out into eternal fire, there are *only* items they *didn&#039;t* do, no &quot;bad&quot; actions they *did* do--it&#039;s a list of sins of omission, rather than commission, as it were.  And it doesn&#039;t mention anything remotely like terminating pregnancy.

Do you regularly do the things the sheep did, in this story--feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, clothing the naked, inviting strangers into your home, and visiting those who are in hospital and prison? I must confess I haven&#039;t done much of any of these things lately--I sort of do my little token charity with our beautiful little World Vision girl in Gaza--sending off our check every month--and this, while certainly very significant, doesn&#039;t really seem to me to be the sort of thing Jesus was referring to.  I mean *I&#039;d* be pretty surprised if he said that nice thing to me, like he said to the sheep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howie,</p>
<p>  To me the really interesting thing in the Bible passage to which you allude is the way in which both groups&#8211;both the sheep and the goats&#8211;are genuinely surprised when Jesus tells them &#8220;you did this, that, and t&#8217;other&#8221; or &#8220;you didn&#8217;t do this, that, or t&#8217;other&#8221;. Do you believe there will be a 3rd group there, not mentioned by Jesus, who won&#8217;t be at all surprised&#8211;who will be saying something like &#8220;Well I already *knew* that when I was doing these things, I was doing it for you, Jesus, and I already knew those evil people over there were not doing these things for you Jesus. In fact, *that* couple right there&#8211;they murdered you in the womb, Jesus&#8211;I saw the video on RYF.&#8221;?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also interesting to me that you extrapolate quite so far from the text. In the list of actions of the goats, for which they will be cast out into eternal fire, there are *only* items they *didn&#8217;t* do, no &#8220;bad&#8221; actions they *did* do&#8211;it&#8217;s a list of sins of omission, rather than commission, as it were.  And it doesn&#8217;t mention anything remotely like terminating pregnancy.</p>
<p>Do you regularly do the things the sheep did, in this story&#8211;feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, clothing the naked, inviting strangers into your home, and visiting those who are in hospital and prison? I must confess I haven&#8217;t done much of any of these things lately&#8211;I sort of do my little token charity with our beautiful little World Vision girl in Gaza&#8211;sending off our check every month&#8211;and this, while certainly very significant, doesn&#8217;t really seem to me to be the sort of thing Jesus was referring to.  I mean *I&#8217;d* be pretty surprised if he said that nice thing to me, like he said to the sheep.</p>
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		<title>By: Howie</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/06/15/choices/comment-page-1/#comment-2743</link>
		<dc:creator>Howie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Benji, I haven&#039;t been &quot;listening in&quot; on Recycle stuff for a while, so good to hear you&#039;re still kicking. As usual, you lack the wisdom in your question to discern, and still do not get the concept of &quot;line upon line and precept upon precept&quot;. The line &quot;You do it unto me&quot; by Jesus, applies perfectly to the video of the couple who selfishly killed their preborn child because they did not want to go through an uncomfortable moment in their life and killed their baby because it was less than perfect. To compare that with the terrorist trying to wipe you off the earth and you defending yourself is careless. And your preconceived thoughts based on anti-American bias does not belong here in the context of the video. You muddy the water that can quench the thirsty by twisting concepts.  Howie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Benji, I haven&#8217;t been &#8220;listening in&#8221; on Recycle stuff for a while, so good to hear you&#8217;re still kicking. As usual, you lack the wisdom in your question to discern, and still do not get the concept of &#8220;line upon line and precept upon precept&#8221;. The line &#8220;You do it unto me&#8221; by Jesus, applies perfectly to the video of the couple who selfishly killed their preborn child because they did not want to go through an uncomfortable moment in their life and killed their baby because it was less than perfect. To compare that with the terrorist trying to wipe you off the earth and you defending yourself is careless. And your preconceived thoughts based on anti-American bias does not belong here in the context of the video. You muddy the water that can quench the thirsty by twisting concepts.  Howie</p>
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		<title>By: MxTori</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/06/15/choices/comment-page-1/#comment-2741</link>
		<dc:creator>MxTori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The God I know is with me in every step of my life. He might not like what someone does, but he still overs them, and he is still watching over them. 

And again, your caught up on the fact that this family had an abortion. Can you look past that for one minuet?

Jesus call us to love. They acted out of love. Christa is acting out of love. God loves us regardless of our sins or our choices. That&#039;s what makes his love unconditional, and I&#039;m sure you know this. God meets you where you are at, and he works with you, as long as you are willing to trust him. Christa trusted him by loving her friends regardless of their choices and her personal beliefs.  That&#039;s all God what.

You can call my &quot;argument&quot; weak if you want to, I could really care less.  :) God Bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The God I know is with me in every step of my life. He might not like what someone does, but he still overs them, and he is still watching over them. </p>
<p>And again, your caught up on the fact that this family had an abortion. Can you look past that for one minuet?</p>
<p>Jesus call us to love. They acted out of love. Christa is acting out of love. God loves us regardless of our sins or our choices. That&#8217;s what makes his love unconditional, and I&#8217;m sure you know this. God meets you where you are at, and he works with you, as long as you are willing to trust him. Christa trusted him by loving her friends regardless of their choices and her personal beliefs.  That&#8217;s all God what.</p>
<p>You can call my &#8220;argument&#8221; weak if you want to, I could really care less.  <img src='http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  God Bless.</p>
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		<title>By: benjamin ady</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/06/15/choices/comment-page-1/#comment-2739</link>
		<dc:creator>benjamin ady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howie,

  Just out of curiosity--do you believe you also killed Jesus?  I mean is it a kind of &quot;everyone killed Jesus&quot; thing?  Or is it more specific than that?

  Does the U.S. armed forces get credit for killing Jesus for all the times unborn babies in Iraq have died due to screwed up infrastructure since the U.S. invasion?  I&#039;m genuinely curious if you believe that also?  Or where does that &quot;killed Jesus&quot; thing stop?

  If you failed to speak out strongly against the invasion of Iraq, does that qualify you as having killed Jesus?

  All sounds a bit macabre to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howie,</p>
<p>  Just out of curiosity&#8211;do you believe you also killed Jesus?  I mean is it a kind of &#8220;everyone killed Jesus&#8221; thing?  Or is it more specific than that?</p>
<p>  Does the U.S. armed forces get credit for killing Jesus for all the times unborn babies in Iraq have died due to screwed up infrastructure since the U.S. invasion?  I&#8217;m genuinely curious if you believe that also?  Or where does that &#8220;killed Jesus&#8221; thing stop?</p>
<p>  If you failed to speak out strongly against the invasion of Iraq, does that qualify you as having killed Jesus?</p>
<p>  All sounds a bit macabre to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Howie</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/06/15/choices/comment-page-1/#comment-2736</link>
		<dc:creator>Howie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erin, Christy is NOT brave, but a weak-kneed coward. Jesus called people names who tried to make God&#039;s word impotent. Christy sat back while her friends killed their baby.  Jesus said, &quot;If you do it to the least of these you do it to me.&quot; She killed Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin, Christy is NOT brave, but a weak-kneed coward. Jesus called people names who tried to make God&#8217;s word impotent. Christy sat back while her friends killed their baby.  Jesus said, &#8220;If you do it to the least of these you do it to me.&#8221; She killed Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Howie</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/06/15/choices/comment-page-1/#comment-2735</link>
		<dc:creator>Howie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mx Tori,
You seem to fit the mold of those commenting who will not address the facts of the situation and the mind of Christ, which is his Word, the Bible, but instead go with &quot;feelings&quot; and comments disregarding the biblical admonitions. You use &quot;God-phrases&quot; like &quot;God was with the couple through the whole process&quot; but you can&#039;t find the scripture that supports the notion that somehow God hugs on you while your killing your baby. How about this: Would you say God is there for you if you decide to abuse your three year old?? Your rational does not hold up to sound teachings from God. How do folks like you read God when he says, &quot;If you regard iniquity in your heart HE WILL NOT HEAR YOU. Christie, in the video was not using the sign posts of scripture to help her and her friend make the righteous decision.  I can&#039;t keep responding to your kind of weak approach to dialog if you cannot see this.  Howie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mx Tori,<br />
You seem to fit the mold of those commenting who will not address the facts of the situation and the mind of Christ, which is his Word, the Bible, but instead go with &#8220;feelings&#8221; and comments disregarding the biblical admonitions. You use &#8220;God-phrases&#8221; like &#8220;God was with the couple through the whole process&#8221; but you can&#8217;t find the scripture that supports the notion that somehow God hugs on you while your killing your baby. How about this: Would you say God is there for you if you decide to abuse your three year old?? Your rational does not hold up to sound teachings from God. How do folks like you read God when he says, &#8220;If you regard iniquity in your heart HE WILL NOT HEAR YOU. Christie, in the video was not using the sign posts of scripture to help her and her friend make the righteous decision.  I can&#8217;t keep responding to your kind of weak approach to dialog if you cannot see this.  Howie</p>
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		<title>By: MxTori</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/06/15/choices/comment-page-1/#comment-2709</link>
		<dc:creator>MxTori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is actually a Christ Centered teaching. Jesus didn&#039;t see people as issues, he sees us as individuals. He knows our hearts and our motives. You don&#039;t know how much that family had to wrestle with that decision. God walked with them the entire way. 

Honestly, I feel like you are a little too caught up on making the situation Black and white. You need to realized that everything we go through have shades of gray. People do things for a reason, and as another human being that has been giving the gift of chose, I choose to respect whatever decision they make. That is true love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is actually a Christ Centered teaching. Jesus didn&#8217;t see people as issues, he sees us as individuals. He knows our hearts and our motives. You don&#8217;t know how much that family had to wrestle with that decision. God walked with them the entire way. </p>
<p>Honestly, I feel like you are a little too caught up on making the situation Black and white. You need to realized that everything we go through have shades of gray. People do things for a reason, and as another human being that has been giving the gift of chose, I choose to respect whatever decision they make. That is true love.</p>
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		<title>By: Howie</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/06/15/choices/comment-page-1/#comment-2708</link>
		<dc:creator>Howie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MxTori,
&quot;an open mind and heart&quot; sounds good but is not a biblical concept. &quot;Let this mind be in you&quot; is not an open-minded concept but a mind only filled with Christ.  But the video doesn&#039;t direct you to biblical thinking, but away from having a solid view of the issue. I would propose you read all of my comments on the video and then see the reckless philosophy proposed by the video and a lack of a Christ-centered response to the couple who want to KILL their child. One can be so open-minded that their brains fall out. God says, &quot;the wounds of a friend are better than the kisses of an enemy. Howie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MxTori,<br />
&#8220;an open mind and heart&#8221; sounds good but is not a biblical concept. &#8220;Let this mind be in you&#8221; is not an open-minded concept but a mind only filled with Christ.  But the video doesn&#8217;t direct you to biblical thinking, but away from having a solid view of the issue. I would propose you read all of my comments on the video and then see the reckless philosophy proposed by the video and a lack of a Christ-centered response to the couple who want to KILL their child. One can be so open-minded that their brains fall out. God says, &#8220;the wounds of a friend are better than the kisses of an enemy. Howie</p>
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		<title>By: MxTori</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/06/15/choices/comment-page-1/#comment-2702</link>
		<dc:creator>MxTori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really should re-watch this video with a more open heart and mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really should re-watch this video with a more open heart and mind.</p>
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