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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/07/27/abortion-lies-damnation/comment-page-1/#comment-3246</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This video is trash. Abortion IS wrong in every situation because it is NEVER justifiable to end an innocent life...not even to &quot;save&quot; another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This video is trash. Abortion IS wrong in every situation because it is NEVER justifiable to end an innocent life&#8230;not even to &#8220;save&#8221; another.</p>
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		<title>By: Redeemed</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/07/27/abortion-lies-damnation/comment-page-1/#comment-2951</link>
		<dc:creator>Redeemed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin, if you don&#039;t claim Jesus as your Lord and Savior then your eyes are not opened to Truth. Just because you used to &quot;claim&quot; Him doesn&#039;t mean that you actually knew Him. I pray that you cry out to Him and that you will truly come to know Him.(1Corinthians3:18) (John14:6). I feel abortion is always wrong. I can see what a challenging situation this must have been but instead of taking matters into thier own hands and putting all trust in the Lord and giving the situation over to Him would have proved to have much better (in ways we couldnt have imagined) results. We as people don&#039;t know how things could have turned out throughout history if we had only Trusted God and allowed Him to move. We bring much suffering upon ourselves. Rahab lied but reguardless those men would have been safe. God was with them. It doesnt make lying a grey area for me. It&#039;s plain as day in the 10 commandments. I personally think most bumper stickers are just ones opinion and need not be sweated, as wrong and as off putting as they may be. It&#039;s on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin, if you don&#8217;t claim Jesus as your Lord and Savior then your eyes are not opened to Truth. Just because you used to &#8220;claim&#8221; Him doesn&#8217;t mean that you actually knew Him. I pray that you cry out to Him and that you will truly come to know Him.(1Corinthians3:18) (John14:6). I feel abortion is always wrong. I can see what a challenging situation this must have been but instead of taking matters into thier own hands and putting all trust in the Lord and giving the situation over to Him would have proved to have much better (in ways we couldnt have imagined) results. We as people don&#8217;t know how things could have turned out throughout history if we had only Trusted God and allowed Him to move. We bring much suffering upon ourselves. Rahab lied but reguardless those men would have been safe. God was with them. It doesnt make lying a grey area for me. It&#8217;s plain as day in the 10 commandments. I personally think most bumper stickers are just ones opinion and need not be sweated, as wrong and as off putting as they may be. It&#8217;s on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 04:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy,
David often had &quot;less than pure intentions.&quot; But he&#039;s still considered a &quot;man after God&#039;s heart&quot; by Jesus himself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy,<br />
David often had &#8220;less than pure intentions.&#8221; But he&#8217;s still considered a &#8220;man after God&#8217;s heart&#8221; by Jesus himself!</p>
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		<title>By: Cody Stauffer</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/07/27/abortion-lies-damnation/comment-page-1/#comment-1334</link>
		<dc:creator>Cody Stauffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 05:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a sense, he&#039;s not really saying there isn&#039;t an absolute. More than once it is mentioned that there IS an overriding rule: love God, love others. That will definitely look different in each situation, because now we are talking about relationships, not set in stone statements, i.e. laws. That means we ask, &quot;what&#039;s the loving thing to do, right here, right now.&quot; Even then, of course, the answer isn&#039;t always black and white, and some tough decisions will have to be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a sense, he&#8217;s not really saying there isn&#8217;t an absolute. More than once it is mentioned that there IS an overriding rule: love God, love others. That will definitely look different in each situation, because now we are talking about relationships, not set in stone statements, i.e. laws. That means we ask, &#8220;what&#8217;s the loving thing to do, right here, right now.&#8221; Even then, of course, the answer isn&#8217;t always black and white, and some tough decisions will have to be made.</p>
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		<title>By: Jameson</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/07/27/abortion-lies-damnation/comment-page-1/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Jameson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I think this video makes completely reasonable points, but it&#039;s just unfortunate how politically one-sided it is. I agree, morality is situational. Ultimately, all we have to go on as Christians is that Jesus will judge the world, and that he will do it rightly. Hopefully that sounds comforting rather than frightening, because if it&#039;s Jesus judging, then we know it will not be unfair or horrifying. So in the end, nothing is relative, but in the meantime, we aren&#039;t given perfect knowledge to work with.

But as for my central complaint about the video, those images at the end seem to imply that &quot;absolutism,&quot; the inability to compromise and reach out to others, is a particularly &quot;conservative&quot; problem. Sure, there are bumper stickers that say, &quot;God is a Republican; but there is also a song called &quot;Jesus is a Democrat.&quot; Liberals can be just as &quot;absolutist&quot; as conservatives. I mean, several people have brought this up in an accusing manner toward conservatives, but, what about Iraq? What about war in general? Are liberals willing to admit that war is sometimes necessary and can help more people than otherwise in the long run?

Finally, a quick thought about abortion. I am perfectly capable of doing the math and admitting that saving 3000 women by killing 3000 children is better than saving neither the 3000 women nor the 3000 children. Yes, 3000 dead is better than 6000 dead. I can understand that. But sadly, this is totally a red herring when it comes to the abortion debate in America. No one, I mean absolutely no one performs abortions for that reason. To bring up this rather remarkable example completely obscures the facts of abortion in our country. Over one million abortions happen each year, and less than a fraction of 1% of these have anything to do with saving the life of a mother. Surely we can do better as a nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think this video makes completely reasonable points, but it&#8217;s just unfortunate how politically one-sided it is. I agree, morality is situational. Ultimately, all we have to go on as Christians is that Jesus will judge the world, and that he will do it rightly. Hopefully that sounds comforting rather than frightening, because if it&#8217;s Jesus judging, then we know it will not be unfair or horrifying. So in the end, nothing is relative, but in the meantime, we aren&#8217;t given perfect knowledge to work with.</p>
<p>But as for my central complaint about the video, those images at the end seem to imply that &#8220;absolutism,&#8221; the inability to compromise and reach out to others, is a particularly &#8220;conservative&#8221; problem. Sure, there are bumper stickers that say, &#8220;God is a Republican; but there is also a song called &#8220;Jesus is a Democrat.&#8221; Liberals can be just as &#8220;absolutist&#8221; as conservatives. I mean, several people have brought this up in an accusing manner toward conservatives, but, what about Iraq? What about war in general? Are liberals willing to admit that war is sometimes necessary and can help more people than otherwise in the long run?</p>
<p>Finally, a quick thought about abortion. I am perfectly capable of doing the math and admitting that saving 3000 women by killing 3000 children is better than saving neither the 3000 women nor the 3000 children. Yes, 3000 dead is better than 6000 dead. I can understand that. But sadly, this is totally a red herring when it comes to the abortion debate in America. No one, I mean absolutely no one performs abortions for that reason. To bring up this rather remarkable example completely obscures the facts of abortion in our country. Over one million abortions happen each year, and less than a fraction of 1% of these have anything to do with saving the life of a mother. Surely we can do better as a nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Ady</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/07/27/abortion-lies-damnation/comment-page-1/#comment-348</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Ady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeremy,

  thanks for taking the time to join the conversation.  I&#039;m wondering what your emotional reaction to the idea of situational ethics is?  I mean do you find it repulsive, or frightening?  I find that I have a really strong fear reaction to the idea of a rigid meta-law.  I haven&#039;t really analyzed it, but I totally felt it in my body while reading your post.  I&#039;m going to have to ponder the why of that.

  Do you find you are pretty much able to have a sense of when you think a line of thought represents a tack toward situational ethics, and when it doesn&#039;t?  I mean to say do you think situational ethics is *always* wrong? As a for instance, when I lived in Argentina for a while, the normal and gracious thing to do when introduced to people was to kiss each other on the right cheek.  Here in Seattle, where I am now, most people would find that at best offputting.  So I find I have to act differently toward people in different situations.  In Seattle, it&#039;s technically illegal and by and large culturally offputting and offensive for women to be publically topless.  In rural Liberia, when I visited, the women working in the fields would all be topless, and nobody thought twice about it. But I dasn&#039;t hold hands with my fiance in public there, or they&#039;d be scandalized. What is right here is wrong/sinful there, and vice versa. Does that work for/make sense for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeremy,</p>
<p>  thanks for taking the time to join the conversation.  I&#8217;m wondering what your emotional reaction to the idea of situational ethics is?  I mean do you find it repulsive, or frightening?  I find that I have a really strong fear reaction to the idea of a rigid meta-law.  I haven&#8217;t really analyzed it, but I totally felt it in my body while reading your post.  I&#8217;m going to have to ponder the why of that.</p>
<p>  Do you find you are pretty much able to have a sense of when you think a line of thought represents a tack toward situational ethics, and when it doesn&#8217;t?  I mean to say do you think situational ethics is *always* wrong? As a for instance, when I lived in Argentina for a while, the normal and gracious thing to do when introduced to people was to kiss each other on the right cheek.  Here in Seattle, where I am now, most people would find that at best offputting.  So I find I have to act differently toward people in different situations.  In Seattle, it&#8217;s technically illegal and by and large culturally offputting and offensive for women to be publically topless.  In rural Liberia, when I visited, the women working in the fields would all be topless, and nobody thought twice about it. But I dasn&#8217;t hold hands with my fiance in public there, or they&#8217;d be scandalized. What is right here is wrong/sinful there, and vice versa. Does that work for/make sense for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Ady</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/07/27/abortion-lies-damnation/comment-page-1/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Ady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

  could you talk more about how you differentiate between &quot;eternal wrongs&quot; and &quot;temporary wrongs&quot;?

thank you =).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>  could you talk more about how you differentiate between &#8220;eternal wrongs&#8221; and &#8220;temporary wrongs&#8221;?</p>
<p>thank you =).</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Ady</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/07/27/abortion-lies-damnation/comment-page-1/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Ady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jeremy,

  Could you parse &quot;less than pure intentions than Scripture states&quot; for me?  I&#039;m wanting to know what you&#039;re talking about.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jeremy,</p>
<p>  Could you parse &#8220;less than pure intentions than Scripture states&#8221; for me?  I&#8217;m wanting to know what you&#8217;re talking about.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/07/27/abortion-lies-damnation/comment-page-1/#comment-342</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus&#039; issue with the Pharisees was not their rigid sense of right and wrong but rather that the a) put that in a position of a salvation/holiness litmus test and b) held people to standards that they lied about living up to themselves.  whitewashed tombstones.  Right and wrong wasn&#039;t the problem.  Legalism was.

p.s. i also wanted to let you know that i hear all your other points.  i&#039;m just unable to respond to them all at this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus&#8217; issue with the Pharisees was not their rigid sense of right and wrong but rather that the a) put that in a position of a salvation/holiness litmus test and b) held people to standards that they lied about living up to themselves.  whitewashed tombstones.  Right and wrong wasn&#8217;t the problem.  Legalism was.</p>
<p>p.s. i also wanted to let you know that i hear all your other points.  i&#8217;m just unable to respond to them all at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am always open to hearing other people&#039;s sides.  A problem I see these days though is that people are concerned about their opinions and input being respected and heard than they are at getting to the truth.  That allows relativism to flourish.  If what is more important to me is what I want than what is true then &quot;I&#039;m ok, you&#039;re ok&quot;.  There is no standard anymore in that situation and that is how things are now.
What you should be more concerned about is not whether or not I&#039;m open to hearing what you have to say but rather a) what is the truth? and b) is what i&#039;m saying true or is there truth in what I said.
Jesus said to &quot;obey my commands&quot; and THEN &quot;you will know the truth and the truth will set you free&quot;.  He also said whoever was on the side of truth is on his side.
I&#039;ll listen and talk with you until 4am every night if we have to but if we aren&#039;t together trying to work towards the truth it will all be in vain.  Like driving towards a destination with no map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am always open to hearing other people&#8217;s sides.  A problem I see these days though is that people are concerned about their opinions and input being respected and heard than they are at getting to the truth.  That allows relativism to flourish.  If what is more important to me is what I want than what is true then &#8220;I&#8217;m ok, you&#8217;re ok&#8221;.  There is no standard anymore in that situation and that is how things are now.<br />
What you should be more concerned about is not whether or not I&#8217;m open to hearing what you have to say but rather a) what is the truth? and b) is what i&#8217;m saying true or is there truth in what I said.<br />
Jesus said to &#8220;obey my commands&#8221; and THEN &#8220;you will know the truth and the truth will set you free&#8221;.  He also said whoever was on the side of truth is on his side.<br />
I&#8217;ll listen and talk with you until 4am every night if we have to but if we aren&#8217;t together trying to work towards the truth it will all be in vain.  Like driving towards a destination with no map.</p>
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