Comments on: Not the Same http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/10/19/not-the-same/ travel to new places in your spiritual thought life Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:42:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Lloyd/Bob Peacock http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/10/19/not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-6359 Lloyd/Bob Peacock Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:31:04 +0000 http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/?p=1031#comment-6359 This is something we have dreamed about for many years, however there was one small difference. We thought that if we should ever come into enough money we'd like to open a restaurant where if someone had a need they could eat for free. We wouldn't advertise free meals but just give food to those who couldn't afford to pay. Both of you set an example of "What Jesus Would Do." Bless you. This is something we have dreamed about for many years, however there was one small difference. We thought that if we should ever come into enough money we’d like to open a restaurant where if someone had a need they could eat for free. We wouldn’t advertise free meals but just give food to those who couldn’t afford to pay. Both of you set an example of “What Jesus Would Do.” Bless you.

]]> By: Sara http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/10/19/not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-767 Sara Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:58:59 +0000 http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/?p=1031#comment-767 I can't say that I know the answers to those questions. I think if you've never been in a situation, it can be very difficult to truly understand and truly give a certain amount of gentleness and respect. I say that because I do believe that the workers of the food bank are trying to do their best, but they are probably burnt out by "doing" and probably needing more to give to the public in this harsh economically challenged time. I would imagine there is very little "reward" for helping at the food bank/crisis center. I wish I could pinpoint why it was sooo uncomfortable, but really, it probably all stems from me and my own ideas not the centers. Libby and Brad's food cafe has such a different feel to it that I think there can be no preconceived ideas on who they or I might think "deserves" this type of "help". Plus, the idea of being able to work off what I can't afford to pay for is so appealing for those of us who can't stand taking something for free. (Imagine how hard it is to really deal with the costly gift that Jesus gave us freely) I don't know if that answered anything, but those are some more of my thoughts. I can’t say that I know the answers to those questions. I think if you’ve never been in a situation, it can be very difficult to truly understand and truly give a certain amount of gentleness and respect. I say that because I do believe that the workers of the food bank are trying to do their best, but they are probably burnt out by “doing” and probably needing more to give to the public in this harsh economically challenged time. I would imagine there is very little “reward” for helping at the food bank/crisis center. I wish I could pinpoint why it was sooo uncomfortable, but really, it probably all stems from me and my own ideas not the centers. Libby and Brad’s food cafe has such a different feel to it that I think there can be no preconceived ideas on who they or I might think “deserves” this type of “help”. Plus, the idea of being able to work off what I can’t afford to pay for is so appealing for those of us who can’t stand taking something for free. (Imagine how hard it is to really deal with the costly gift that Jesus gave us freely) I don’t know if that answered anything, but those are some more of my thoughts.

]]> By: Craig http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/10/19/not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-761 Craig Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:40:27 +0000 http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/?p=1031#comment-761 Wow, Sara, thanks for sharing this! Do you think your experiences at the food bank could have been better under different management or do you think that these attitudes are built into the food bank model? What do you think it would take for your experiences to have been better? Wow, Sara, thanks for sharing this! Do you think your experiences at the food bank could have been better under different management or do you think that these attitudes are built into the food bank model? What do you think it would take for your experiences to have been better?

]]> By: Abbie http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/10/19/not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-758 Abbie Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:57:23 +0000 http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/?p=1031#comment-758 Oh my goodness!! Now I'm not even old enough to have a job (thanks Kansas law!) but this is an INCREDIBLE idea!! I am seriously considering starting one here... Of course thats a looooooooooooong shot but you have to start from somewhere right? God made people to help one another and the earth plus its beings.... Are all of us doing our part? This is the best idea since sliced white bread and I can't WAIT to tell my parents, teachers, coaches, ANYONE who will lend a hand and listen... Thank You sooooo much RYF you've opened my eyes to the greater good! :) Oh my goodness!! Now I’m not even old enough to have a job (thanks Kansas law!) but this is an INCREDIBLE idea!! I am seriously considering starting one here… Of course thats a looooooooooooong shot but you have to start from somewhere right? God made people to help one another and the earth plus its beings…. Are all of us doing our part? This is the best idea since sliced white bread and I can’t WAIT to tell my parents, teachers, coaches, ANYONE who will lend a hand and listen… Thank You sooooo much RYF you’ve opened my eyes to the greater good! :)

]]> By: Sara http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/10/19/not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-757 Sara Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:24:33 +0000 http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/?p=1031#comment-757 I closely relate with what Libby said about there being some people who feel comfortable using soup kitchens and food banks but others who feel uncomfortably embarrassed by it/themselves/their current situation. I can say that having no other choice, I have used a food bank and was extremely uncomfortable. Not uncomfortable because I may come in contact with other people who have hit hard times, but uncomfortable that people may look at me (coming in work attire) and decide that I wasn't "poor enough" to use these services. My husband lost his job, we had to file for bankruptcy, and we were being evicted from our house. I was the sole-supporter of our 4 person household with my low paying secretarial job. It was very difficult to make ends meet and I had no other choice but to go to the food bank on my lunch hour once a week to get enough food for us to meagerly eat on until the next week. I would have loved to have had the fellowship and human respect that the SAME cafe seems to bring to its patrons. I closely relate with what Libby said about there being some people who feel comfortable using soup kitchens and food banks but others who feel uncomfortably embarrassed by it/themselves/their current situation. I can say that having no other choice, I have used a food bank and was extremely uncomfortable. Not uncomfortable because I may come in contact with other people who have hit hard times, but uncomfortable that people may look at me (coming in work attire) and decide that I wasn’t “poor enough” to use these services. My husband lost his job, we had to file for bankruptcy, and we were being evicted from our house. I was the sole-supporter of our 4 person household with my low paying secretarial job. It was very difficult to make ends meet and I had no other choice but to go to the food bank on my lunch hour once a week to get enough food for us to meagerly eat on until the next week. I would have loved to have had the fellowship and human respect that the SAME cafe seems to bring to its patrons.

]]> By: Craig http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/10/19/not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-740 Craig Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:00:44 +0000 http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/?p=1031#comment-740 Yeah Joe, that probably could have been phrased a bit better. I think the remaining 25% comes in from people excited about what SAME is doing without any effort (not as a result of donation letters, banquets, or other fund raisers). The point I was trying to draw out is that Brad & Libby are running a restaurant as a non-profit, not the other way around. Thanks for keeping me honest! Yeah Joe, that probably could have been phrased a bit better. I think the remaining 25% comes in from people excited about what SAME is doing without any effort (not as a result of donation letters, banquets, or other fund raisers). The point I was trying to draw out is that Brad & Libby are running a restaurant as a non-profit, not the other way around. Thanks for keeping me honest!

]]> By: joe http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/10/19/not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-735 joe Sat, 24 Oct 2009 07:24:07 +0000 http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/?p=1031#comment-735 Thanks Craig, I wouldn't call that even 'nearly' self sufficient - that is dependent on donations for 25% of the running cost. Which somewhat undermines the project in some ways. That said, I really like the attitude and way they do things :) Thanks Craig, I wouldn’t call that even ‘nearly’ self sufficient – that is dependent on donations for 25% of the running cost. Which somewhat undermines the project in some ways.

That said, I really like the attitude and way they do things :)

]]> By: Craig http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/10/19/not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-734 Craig Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:50:01 +0000 http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/?p=1031#comment-734 Hi Joe! From my understanding, about 70-75% of SAME's operating costs are covered solely by the cash collected in the donation box in the restaurant. The other 25-30% comes in through more traditional donors. Having such a high percentage coming in this fashion frees Brad & Libby up to focus on operating the restaurant and not fund raising or grant writing. Hi Joe!
From my understanding, about 70-75% of SAME’s operating costs are covered solely by the cash collected in the donation box in the restaurant. The other 25-30% comes in through more traditional donors. Having such a high percentage coming in this fashion frees Brad & Libby up to focus on operating the restaurant and not fund raising or grant writing.

]]> By: joe http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/10/19/not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-733 joe Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:00:25 +0000 http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/?p=1031#comment-733 Like it. Interested in what it means by "nearly" self sufficient - can someone explain more about that? Like it. Interested in what it means by “nearly” self sufficient – can someone explain more about that?

]]> By: Sandy http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/2009/10/19/not-the-same/comment-page-1/#comment-728 Sandy Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:55:08 +0000 http://www.recycleyourfaith.com/?p=1031#comment-728 Thanks Libby and Brad... wonderful video... keep up the great work you are doing/being for all of us! With much love and gratitude, Sandy Thanks Libby and Brad… wonderful video… keep up the great work you are doing/being for all of us! With much love and gratitude, Sandy

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